ESD Calls Campbell’s Sentencing “Lenient”

From my inbox to your eyeballs: Here’s a statement from the Episcopal School of Dallas on today’s criminal sentencing of John Nathan Campbell. 

Footnote(headnote?): The final quote is a direct reply to Charla Aldous’ statement that will appear in the Oct. 14 edition of Preston Hollow People. Aldous said that Campbell admitted his guilt, but the school has yet to apologize for its role.

“It’s sad and somewhat ironic that a jury found ESD responsible and they continue to deny culpability,” she said. “I would feel like we’ve done what we set out to do if ESD would apologize.”

Statement from Episcopal School of Dallas

“ESD supported full criminal prosecution of Nathan Campbell on both the sexual assault and improper relationship with a student charges.   We were appalled and outraged when we learned of his behavior after being notified by Farmers Branch police when the former teacher and former student were questioned in a Farmers Branch parking lot.  As soon as school officials learned of the improper relationship, we took immediate action including notifying Child Protective Services and advising the former student’s parents to contact police and Nathan Campbell left the school within 24 hours.

“Despite the lenient sentence for Campbell, one more chapter of this disturbing episode is closing. Nathan Campbell, however, will be labeled as a sexual offender for life.

“The school’s attorneys are preparing an appeal, and we look forward to receiving a just and correct decision from the Appeals Court.  In response to Ms. Aldous’ statement, our board chairman John Eagle apologized not once, but twice on the witness stand.”

By Claire St. Amant Oct. 10, 2011 | 4:23 pm | 71 Comments | Comments RSS
71 comments to "ESD Calls Campbell's Sentencing "Lenient""
  1. HPmom @ October 10, 2011 at 5:17 pm
    Did I misread the trial transcripts? I thought I had read that it took ESD TWO WEEKS to notify the parents after the Farmers Branch police alerted them to the incident? Not exactly the immediate action I would expect and want from my CHILD’S school.

  2. GMOM @ October 10, 2011 at 5:20 pm
    You have GOT to be effing kidding(the letter), the sentence. Go to the court papers, all the attorneys got a letter regarding ESD judgementfrom the Judge stating that “although the cause reflects a docket entry of final disposition; a judgement has not been furnished for entry. This case is now set for final disposition on: DECEMBER 02,@ 9:00AM
    Unless final judgement ius furnished to the court prior to such date, an order of dismissal will be entered with costs taxed against the party incurring the same.” Are we on a parallel planet??

  3. GMOM @ October 10, 2011 at 5:27 pm
    Oh, most important, an order of dismissal without prejudice will be entered. Surely Aldous won’t let it go to a retrial after all that work and a win???

  4. avid follower @ October 10, 2011 at 5:29 pm
    ESD does just not get it. They never miss an opportunity to look bad.

    a couple of questions: appalled and outraged. Then why did they let Nathan Campbell finish out the day?

    support of the student: Why was Jane Doe not affored the same privileges as Campbell, who was allowed to stay the day and clean out his desk?

    apologized twice: Why did Father Swann/Royal/Mayo all say they would do the same thing over again. How is that an apology?

    I wonder is ESD is just trying to make it so no one wants to go there anymore. You are becoming a laughing stock amongst other private schools.

    Now, lets here for the ESD supporters who seem to do a perfect example of the three monkeys, all at one: hear no, see no and speak no evil about ESD.

  5. EagleParent @ October 10, 2011 at 5:47 pm
    @HP mom- ESD had a meeting on Tuesday and Thursday after Jane Doe and Campbell were caught in the parking lot

    @Avid Follower- I actually think ESD looks good! No students have left the school because of this.

    I cannot wait for the appeal. It’s my guess that the Doe family will end up receiving a small amount of money if any. It doesn’t look good that they worked with Campbell so that he doesn’t go to prison.

    Jane Doe turns out to be a great actress. She should thank Aldous for that.

  6. Jogger @ October 10, 2011 at 6:21 pm
    As an ESD parent it would have been wonderful to hear Swann apologize. However, his number one goal is to keep his position. Anyone who truly had the interest of ESD in his position would resign. Although many families support him there are just as many if not more who are ready for him to leave. The divisiness of the school is unhealthy but I expect it will continue to be about his ego.

  7. Thetruthshallsetyoufree @ October 10, 2011 at 6:25 pm
    A child of one of ESD’s witnesses left as a result of this situation and is now at Hockaday. Very few high school students can leave ESD and keep their college recommendations. I guarantee that the lower school has lost students and applicants.

  8. Former ESD Mother @ October 10, 2011 at 6:51 pm
    Can someone that is an attorney or knowledgeable please explain the final disposition/judgment issue and the December 2 court date. What exactly does this mean?

  9. Trial watcher3 @ October 10, 2011 at 10:44 pm
    @jogger – all the correspondence the school is sending is making them look worse…..see we’re not so bad. Real change would show they actually learned something.

  10. alex @ October 11, 2011 at 6:41 am
    So Aldous’ “sexual predator”,”Paedophile”,”sexual abuser” gets no prison time ? “Victim” ?? you’re having a laugh. A day one money grab plain as day. The judgement against ESD will (rightfully) be overturned on appeal.

  11. Lisa @ October 11, 2011 at 7:27 am
    Fr. Swann and his deaf,dumb, and blind supporters are the ones who are all about the money. It is beyond irony that they invoke money every time they re-victimize  Jane and her family. Money seems to be their primary cause for bitterness. It’s business as usual for ESD, except for putting tracking devices on their vehicles…that sends a strong message of change! That Board of Directors is a bunch of weak, sniveling, pandering morons- all trying to save face in their meetings. Their continued undying support of Fr. Swann is a disgrace to Dallas. If they had a collective brain among them they would realize that right or wrong, perception is everything. As  business people they should have offered him a fat exit package, a new Porsche for life and a lavish retirement party in some beautiful vacation destination.

  12. Avid Reader @ October 11, 2011 at 7:50 am
    GMOM, Can you explain that in non-lawyer lingo please?

  13. episcopalian @ October 11, 2011 at 9:44 am
    @Eagle Parent – you are a bully and a fake. Twist facts and badger anyone who questions your crazy logic. My current ESD high school student is stuck. What a horrible mistake we made accepting the offer to attend. We are embarrassed that we didn’t put 2 and 2 together with an Episcopal school NOT being a member of our diocese. How could a school run by an Episcopal Priest NOT be good for our child?? It sickens me now that we know the answer! We will continue to hide though out of fear. Fear of bullying and fear of no viable options. Our other children have been saved by the Does’ bravery. ESD will not see our application for our other child and I would suspect applications are way down across the board at ESD. I am sure you will bully me with your response. It is status quo for you. I am ready. Hit with your best shot. You only further the point of the opinion of the school with every vile word you type.

  14. ESD Neighbor @ October 11, 2011 at 10:31 am
    the ESD “our” house signs/bumper stickers are appalling – how to intimidate any student reporting inappropriate behavior – the house will crush you – nice message – the whole thing is repugnant -

  15. Lisa @ October 11, 2011 at 10:49 am
    @ESDneighbor. You are so right. Those yard signs might as well say “ESD will crush you” And shamelessly. They have acted throughout this whole debacle as if it’s been a pep rally before a football game. And continue to tell themselves ( and anyone else who will listen) they won, even though they lost in the trial and in the public’s opinion.

  16. Jogger @ October 11, 2011 at 12:29 pm
    @trialwatcher3-I agree, the email last week was ridiculous. I really had a good laugh reading the letter from the former student’s father. I am not sure how supportive letters from swann’s koolaide drinkers will influence my opinion. I guess it keeps the pr company busy.

  17. Nancy @ October 11, 2011 at 1:15 pm
    alex, I agree. The verdict will be overturned. The Does and their attorneys have completely been exposed. They are fakes in it for the money and now there is proof. They made a deal to let Campbell off. That really says it all doesn’t it.

    Shopping mom and sailing dad and their greedy attorneys whored Jane out for the buck. I wonder if she will be getting therapy for that? Her parents didn’t care a bit about her until there was a buck in it. Pretty sad really. I think she got more love and support from the people at ESD than she ever got at home. That’s probably why she wanted to stay so bad.

  18. Former Student @ October 11, 2011 at 1:19 pm
    The damage has already been done for ESD. From here on out, all actions regarding the case will be scrutinized and seen as tacky by some people. I think it is more important that ESD is still communicating about everything rather than saying nothing at all and looking like they are trying to sweep the whole thing under the rug (especially since that seems to be the biggest problem with their original actions regarding JD2).

    Any publicity or announcements from ESD will be criticized, but if ESD just said nothing at all and didn’t acknowledge any of this, wouldn’t you all find that to be more distasteful? It’s a catch-22 for the school and people can’t seem to understand that they’ve gotten too far into the public eye to not keep on communicating with everyone.

    The school can’t please everyone, but they are doing a good job trying to please the parents and students within the school by keeping them updated. And honestly, those are the only people that matter to the school right now – not the dallas bloggers who have watched from the sidelines. The top priority is to the school is maintaining a healthy relationship with the ESD community and that will obviously upset people outside of that direct community.

  19. Eagle Parent @ October 11, 2011 at 1:28 pm
    @episcopalian- I am not a bully or a fake.

    Apply to Parish. I’m sure they would take all your children.

  20. Nancy @ October 11, 2011 at 1:30 pm
    ESD Nieghbor, the signs mean what the signs say. It seems like a simple message of support for the school. I love the signs.

    Tell you what is repugnant is the fact that the Does cut a deal with the scum they said raped their daughter. I mean really, how low can you go?

  21. GMOM @ October 11, 2011 at 3:08 pm
    Avid Reader – I pretty much copied the letter that was sent to each lawyer on both sides, the one I am looking at is to Royce B. West. I have had it explained to me that there is a docket entry showing that a final disposition of the case has been reached (ESD lost), but no judgement ($$) has been furnished for the entry, so they are arguing over the amount to be awarded the family is what I think and they all are negotiating. All the parents wanted IN THE FIRST PLACE was a million probably for what it cost them to send 4 children 12 years at ESD, AND Swann to resign. That’s all – how simple would that have been!! Not millions in legal fees, ESD dragged thru the mud, divided town. Remember the “FAMILY” is only about 1,000 kids, compared to all the families out here,
    OK I’m done for now. It’s just tragic for all concerned!!

  22. episcopalian @ October 11, 2011 at 3:34 pm
    @Eagle Parent

    Applying to Parish is the first smart suggestion out of your mouth. It is a shame that it comes with such venom. Kudos for staying true to your being. Your are an excellent representation of ESD!

  23. Defending Claire @ October 11, 2011 at 3:39 pm
    hey nancy
    has it ever occurred to you that maybe a plea bargain was issued so the victim did not need to suffer through another lengthy criminal trial?

    …funny you never that about that one, ya smarty pants

  24. Eagle Parent @ October 11, 2011 at 3:56 pm
    @episcopalian- Thank you! And you are a very good professional blogger!

  25. avid follower @ October 11, 2011 at 4:02 pm
    Nancy,

    You are one vile excuse for a human. Nothing else to say about you. (that they will let me say here)

  26. Nancy @ October 11, 2011 at 4:07 pm
    No, Defending Claire@, Never occurred to me and it is not even credible. They just put their daughter through a circus for money. When did the Does start caring about their daughter? When they cut a deal to let her “attacker” go? LOL. Yeah no. Never occurred to me and don’t think anyone else that is not in it for the money will see it that way either.

  27. Nancy @ October 11, 2011 at 4:36 pm
    GMOM, Ummm. Since you and Avid reader/follower know each other and the plainfiff’s side so well maybe you guys should get a private room to plan your case. LOL

    GMOM, I don’t think the school was ever trying to do the simple thing. I think they were trying to do the right thing and I would expect them to keep on trying to do that.

    The Does want money. I expect they will keep trying to get it. I guess what I don’t understand is how will trying to hurt the school and attacking the students and families help them get it? Maybe you can explain. You seem to know the thinking of the Does.

  28. ESD Neighbor @ October 11, 2011 at 6:06 pm
    Why does it matter what the Does want? We get @Nancy you don’t like or respect the Does behavior. Fine. It is your continued posted comments thick with rancor and animosity that do a great disservice to your cause. Your dog-with-a-bone tenacity in this case leads this reader to believe you are far closer to the proceedings than just an interested parent/community member. Keep talking you might just post something Carla finds interesting in a retrial – your 15 minutes might just start then.

  29. episcopalian @ October 11, 2011 at 8:47 pm
    @ Eagle Parent. Wouldn’t life be easy for you if I was a professional blogger. Sadly for you, I am in fact all that I claim to be; an Episcopalian, embarrassed mother of an ESD high schooler; and a previous victim of bullying. It is classic behavior for you to dismiss your behavior and excuse your evil. Surely when this cause is over you will attack others as that is your sustenance for your soul. You need help with your eagerness to always come out swinging an anvil! You are a bully and you are an embarrassment; yet classic example of the attitude that resonates around ESD. I pray for your ability to let go of the hate you fill yourself with. You will find life much more fulfilling if you can.

  30. EagleParent @ October 11, 2011 at 9:31 pm
    @episcopalean- how fast can you get your high schooler to Parish?

  31. no dog in this hunt @ October 11, 2011 at 10:48 pm
    If the DMN is to be believed (I know, I know), the Does wanted Campbell to have to register as a sex offender for life, which led to a plea that kept him out of jail. Am I reading that right?

  32. Former Student @ October 11, 2011 at 11:31 pm
    Yes I think that is correct. The article made it sound like the most important thing to them was making sure he was registered as a sex offender.

  33. Autvincere @ October 12, 2011 at 8:10 am
    After a trial the Court requires that a Judgement be entered. The lawyers will usually agree to the Judgement language, and relief awarded. If there is no agreement both sides send their version and the Court can then her arguments from each side. After Judgement is entered there is a time period allowed for request for New Trial or Judgement Not withstanding the verdict (JNOV). This whole process can take a while. After these issues are heard the appeal process starts. Party appealing orders the record ….. That will take a while on a 9 week trial. Usually takes a year or two to get the Court of Appeals and then it’s on the the Supremes…which will take years.

    And as for ESD getting a reversal and “vindication” I doubt there will even be a line in the DMN about it.

  34. avid follower @ October 12, 2011 at 9:14 am
    Nancy

    do not know anyone from these blogs. why do you consistently try to show that those of us who disagree with you know each other. now, I might know them, but since we all use psuedo-names here, as far as I know, I do not know anyone.

    EagleParent: you are as vile as Nancy.

    so glad I did not send my child to ESD and yes we were offered a place. So glad I went to a kinder school.

  35. boooo @ October 12, 2011 at 11:42 am
    hpmom. the school notified child protective service right when farmers branch police notified esd. get your facts straight.

  36. Nancy @ October 12, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    hey,ESD Nieghbor@ It is people like you that keep me coming back for more. Oh and I am not afraid of your boss Carla.
    I mean she is a good actress but I don’t think she is much else. Beside, why would she come for me? There is no money in it. LOL

  37. HPmom @ October 12, 2011 at 1:06 pm
    @boooo- You have the story half right- as did I. I reread the article in “D” magazine and it says the parents were notified ONE week after CPS told ESD that their daughter had admitted to having sex with her teacher. So for some reason, they held on to that information for a week.

  38. Nancy @ October 12, 2011 at 1:08 pm
    Oh avid Follower@ Come on. I know you think you are smarter than everyone else but how dumb do you think people are? You guys aren’t fooling anyone but it is fun to watch you try. :)

  39. Nancy @ October 12, 2011 at 2:38 pm
    HPmom@ Don’t know what “D” says. It all reads like fiction to me but this came up in court. Besides. the FB police let the parents know didn’t they. OH and Doe mom knew all about it. ESD didn’t keep anything from the parents. The parents and Jane kept things from ESD.

  40. Avid Reader @ October 12, 2011 at 2:42 pm
    Nancy,
    ESD has done a great job on their own of making themselves look completely inept and heartless through the entire situation, trial and now through their own statements. However, I would like to thank you for your continued support in keeping the ESD failures and ridiculously arrogant attitudes front and center. It is clear through your continued outlandish and disgusting comments (no worries, we get that it is all a double agent ploy type situation) that you are in complete support of JDII and cleaning house at ESD to make it better for the future students. For that, Thank You. THIS IS OUR HOUSE AND WE WILL FIX IT! GO EAGLES!

  41. Avid Reader @ October 12, 2011 at 3:04 pm
    This last ESD statement might be the silliest they have put out yet.

    “ESD supported full criminal prosecution of Nathan Campbell on both the sexual assault and improper relationship with a student charges.”

    ….but only after [REDACTED] our own CFO, Burrow (who as luck would have it is one of Campbell’s buddies) reached out to Campbell to let him know we “hope for the best for him” and ask if he would cover up for our huge internal failures.

  42. Nancy @ October 12, 2011 at 4:10 pm
    LOL. Avid Reader, I just speak for myself. I guess John Eagle speaks for the school and I think he has done a good job of that. If you don’t like my posts just skip them. I figure you are just in it for the money and don’t care much what you think. Go Eagles!

  43. Former Student @ October 12, 2011 at 4:26 pm
    @Avid Reader You and so many other commenters on here seem to believe that everything Chris Burrows did was on behalf of the school. The school didn’t know he was going to talk to Campbell so everything he said respresents his own opinions and is not coming from the mouth of the ESD administrators. To apply his words to the whole school makes no sense.

    And Nancy, I really don’t understand why you keep posting. Your comments are filled with bad grammar, misspelled words, and misused vocabulary. You sound like a middle school student or uneducated high school student posing as an adult and it really weakens the image of ESD supporters and makes us all look bad. For the sake of ESD, you really should stop posting. Your comments make me as annoyed as everyone who seems to be against ESD.

  44. Auntie Cairo @ October 12, 2011 at 5:06 pm
    Avid Follower — last time I checked a person is guilty until proven innocent. As an employer ESD had to not only address the situation with Jane Doe but be careful in how it handled Campbell until all the facts came out. So many on here act like only ESD had responsibility in this matter – why did the parents wait so long to bring charges? And why are they allowing Campbell off so easily? Only they know for sure. I don’t buy they were trying to save Jane Doe another trial – because he already plead guilty. Also she clearly cooperated with the D Magazine story which brought out many unnecessary intimate details which I think would be humiliating if you were allegedly a traumatized victim of sexual abuse. There were no easy answers for the school — right or wrong they believe they handled the situation correctly. Hindsight is always 20/20. They had to temper prosecution of their case because I don’t think they are anyone wanted to bring more harm to Jane Doe than had already happened.

    But I agree with their expert and others in that legal protocol aside — you have to hope Jane Doe is getting the proper therapy to deal with her part in the relationship — because based on her story at 16 it’s hard for alot of people to believe she was as clueless as she claims to have been.

    The light sentence for Campbell supports many of the various theoriest about cooperation amongst the parties. whether jane Doe’s attorney continues to put the story out there will answer the question of whether money is the main motivator. I find it interesting though that their attorney begs for public apologies from the school – but not so much from Mr. Campbell. And on the other side — does she believe Jane Doe owes an apology to Campbell’s wife – since Miss Doe knew he was married, admitted wanting to break up the marriage, and it was her stalking of Mrs. Campbell that factored into her being asked to leave the school. Jane Doe is now an adult – and I really hope she is learning that her choices are now her own.

  45. Avid Reader @ October 12, 2011 at 5:32 pm
    Nancy, I love your posts and would never skip over them or anyone’s for that matter. Thank you for speaking for yourself and vicariously ESD as a whole (albeit undercover) as it keeps us in the spotlight and will hopefully bring about the massive changes at ESD that you and I both want. Go Eagles!

  46. Lisa @ October 12, 2011 at 5:43 pm
    Whether the Does made a deal with Campbell proves nothing. There is room to consider the Does didn’t want to  suffer through another trial because they won the part of their case that meant the most to them. The jury got it. Campbell confessed. Burrow was exposed. Swann perjured himself in his testimony.

  47. Lisa @ October 12, 2011 at 5:44 pm
       As a UP mom, an Episcopalian, and a business owner, I have no connection to either side of this case other than having several ESD families as friends. I can say that if my child had gone through this horrendous crime and discovery (under any set of circumstances) followed by the callous and self serving directive to be separated from the school by Steve Swann, I too, would be focused on exposing him and his pattern of behavior in previous incidents at ESD. The Does were able to do that along with testimony from another Dad, and another victim of the same treatment.

  48. Lisa @ October 12, 2011 at 5:46 pm
    treatment.
    And furthermore
    I don’t believe the money means a thing to anyone, including ESD.The 
    deliberate treatment of Jane and her family through intent,conspiracy, and prejudice  by the administration and clergy- was and continues to be shocking to me as  both a mother and a business person. This kind of treatment would  not be tolerated in corporate America, or the military but it is SOP for Steve Swann. While I would never relish the publicity, I would sue to change the paradigm of any school for even a fraction of the pain they caused and donate the settlement. 
           You bet I’m still incensed, even after all of this time even as an ” outsider” with no vested interest other than justice because how they handled Jane and the two girls before her was so terribly unfair; because Swann would rather be falsely righteous than genuinely  sorry;because he thinks he got away with it -again.

  49. Avid Reader @ October 12, 2011 at 5:47 pm
    Former Student,
    You and I can neither confirm nor deny that ESD sent Burrow to plead with the rapist to cover for ESD.

  50. Nancy @ October 12, 2011 at 6:11 pm
    Former Student@ I type fast so things don’t come out perfect but so what? You have my permission to skip my posts too if it bothers you all that much. As I have said, I don’t speak for ESD. BTW, You don’t speak for the school or its supporters either, thankfully.

  51. involvedparent @ October 12, 2011 at 7:05 pm
    Nancy
    I agree you type too fast before you can finish a “rational” thought. Are you also related to the absent minded Steve Swann or on the same meds that he is taking?
    Hoorah ESD! Your Eagles are the “dream team” of the Dallas Parochial scene, protect your house….

  52. ESD Neighbor @ October 13, 2011 at 1:56 pm
    Had the biggest chuckle at Tom Thumb Preston/Royal last night- 5pm rush hour – ALL the D magazines were turned around backwards so the SCANDAL cover didn’t show – I did my civic duty and in the spirit of free speech, corrected the misplaced mags – though not always a fan of ‘D’ just had to make sure the mag section is fair and balanced:)
    Swann Pawns – hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil – hilarious!

  53. Former Student @ October 13, 2011 at 2:11 pm
    @Avid Reader you just made my whole point. There is no proof that he was acting on ESD’s behalf so it makes no sense to say that his thoughts mirror ESD’s or that he represents ESD’s feelings. Seems like a man who became too chummy with a monster like Campbell and got exposed for trying to help Campbell out.

  54. Nancy @ October 13, 2011 at 2:26 pm
    ESD Neighbor@ I think that sounds pretty silly. No one cares about the D story. No one reads D. LOL. Glad you are keeping the racks neat though. I just hate a messy magazine rack.

  55. Avid Reader @ October 13, 2011 at 6:02 pm
    @Former Student,
    I did not confirm or deny your point. You say there is no proof that he was acting on ESD’s behalf; and I say there is no proof that he did not. I can’t recall if there were any questions in the trial posed to any of the ESD administrators asking if they had directed Burrow to reach out to Campbell to cover for ESD. If there were, I would imagine that they denied. That said, every single one of the ESD admin witnesses committed perjury either on the stand or in their depositions so their credibility is pretty low if not non-existent.

  56. avid follower @ October 13, 2011 at 8:47 pm
    Nancy, never said or acted like I was smarter than anyone on this site. But I do know that I am smarter than you. Heck, my orange tabby sitting next to me is smarter than you.

    I find your posts silly and naive. If I was still teaching a logic class, I would use them to show how not to make an argument.

    Your arguments tend to reflect a plethora of illogical stances and reasoning. Let me know if you would ever like a lesson on the subject. you sure could use one.

  57. CosmoMartini @ October 13, 2011 at 8:52 pm
    I returned here after a couple of weeks off. Shocked to see the vile and venom stronger than ever. And even more grateful than I ever was that I turned down ESD 12+ years ago and sent my beloved only child to one of the other 3–either Greenhill, SM, or Hockaday–where my child wasnt exposed to the hypocrisy and craziness exhibited by the rapid ESD supporters. Kool-aid Much?

  58. FomerESD DadX2 @ October 14, 2011 at 3:23 pm
    @CosmoMartini – Glad to see you’re back contributing! “Vile and venom” much?

  59. Nancy @ October 14, 2011 at 7:24 pm
    avid follower. Like I said you think you are smarter than others and you confirm that by claiming you are smarter than me. BTW, you contradict yourself in every post you write. There is no logic to anything you write.

    I have nothing to learn from you. LOL. You are so funny.

  60. *breaking news* @ October 15, 2011 at 1:32 pm
    @Nancy- can we get an update on how your letter(s) to Craig Watkins are going.

    We have a LOT to learn from a mind like yours.

  61. Nancy @ October 15, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    I decided to put it on hold after the jury found that the school was not responsible for the Campbell/Doe sex.

    I think the school should sue the responsible parties don’t you? I think they have a great case against the Does and Campbell and I hope they seek justice here.

  62. Former ESD Mother @ October 15, 2011 at 7:57 pm
    All bark. No bite. Easy way out.

  63. Former Male ESD Student @ October 15, 2011 at 8:39 pm
    Nancy, you say you want justice, but when it comes to actually doing something, you do nothing. Kind of reminds me of how you describe the Does. I guess you all have a lot in common. LOL!

  64. eagle grammarian @ October 15, 2011 at 9:55 pm
    “If I was still teaching a logic class, I would use them to show how not to make an argument.”

    @Avid follower, don’t be so quick to flaunt your intelligence or the relative stupidity of others–Nancy or anyone else. For starters, you need to watch your grammar a little more carefully.

    The above sentence from a recent post of yours uses the subjunctive mood incorrectly. It should read like this:

    “If I WERE still teaching a logic class, I would use them to show how not to make an argument.”

  65. The Good Guys remix @ October 15, 2011 at 10:54 pm
    Remind me NEVER to HIRE whatever CRISIS COMMUNICATION FIRM is on the ESD SIDE.

    they reallllly stink

    CONTROL YOUR OUTGOING MESSAAGE idiots..

  66. *breaking news* @ October 16, 2011 at 11:22 am
    ESD, not winning on facts ar morality, decides to fight this battle with the AP Style Guide. Great job!

  67. ESDstudent @ October 16, 2011 at 10:13 pm
    @ESDneighbor the signs that state “this is our house” have absolutely nothing to do with the verdict of the trial. This slogan became prevalent in the school on the first day of orientation. This saying goes hand-in-hand with our new anti-bullying program. Please do not preach about how the people of ESD are bullies, it is a very friendly community. We have all come together in support of OUR school during a rough time and we are being criticized for this? I guess I just don’t understand your logic. It seems as if your total animosity towards ESD has no where else to be expressed other than here, where you can receive no judgement when you articulate your seemingly close minded opinion.

  68. avid follower @ October 17, 2011 at 3:51 pm
    never have flaunted my intelligence. only said I was smarter than Nancy. Still think that. I might have used improper grammar – but that does not make my statement any less true, just improper.

    esdgrammarian: spend more time at ESD teaching the administrators how to care for their students.

  69. ct @ October 27, 2011 at 12:27 am
    Its a shame to see all this mudslinging amognst christians. It is a utter shame. What happened to Matthew 2:25? Acts 7:26? Romans 12:10? Romans 14:10? Romans 14:13? First Corinthians 1:10-11? practically ALL of First Corinthians 6? come on people. i am not episcopalian, but you guys do read the same bible right? i realize not all people posting here may be christians, but if you are, CHECK YOURSELF. whats important is these schools raising strong young american christian men and women, and us older ones being an example to them. the “family” or “house” i hear in this isnt just one school. the body of Christ is one whole, and we should conduct ourselves as such, if for none other than to bring Him glory amognst unbelievers. all the negativity in this situation, from the initial sin, to the sin of us maliciously bashing eachother doesnt just reflect bad on one school, one diocese(sp?), one family or what not. It reflects badly on the entire body of Christ. the task now is to repent, forgive, and figure out what went wrong where, to see something this childish doesnt happen again. How do we see to it that men like cambell dont go that far to begin with? how do we counsel men like his former office mate who should have been the first to get in cambell’s face and call him on it? fix those core issues, and this never happens except in secular schools. Grown faculty gossiping about students like some high school girls? seriously? IDK what sport “jane” played, but where is the coach’s stiff arm for being late to practice when she was goofing off in the teacher’s office? those are all things that would prevent this kind of stuff if they worked as intended. so stop bashing eachother and work together to fix the school, the community, the city, and so on.

  70. Texas Educator @ October 27, 2011 at 8:47 am
    C’mon people. How dense are you? Nancy is a supporter of the plaintiffs. She knows that by going right up to the edge of satire, her posts mock all that the ESD supporters say.
    There is plenty of truth in what the ESD supporters state, but only when stated in humility and moderation. Nancy knows that, in the extreme, that validity evaporates. She goes to the outrageous extreme in order to undermine any reasonable ESD supporter. And it’s pretty darn effective.

  71. HAHALOL @ November 30, 2011 at 9:40 pm
    I find this entire forum ridiculously hilarious. Whether you are for or against ESD, you are all making complete asses out of yourselves. I am under the assumption that a lot of these people are adults, and to see adults act this way is crazy. There are some of you who are arguing like you are five year old girls. Is it ridiculous to think that it’s possible for adults to have a civilized conversation without sounding like a bunch of immature, [REDACTED] young girls. I think everyone needs to just relax and not make this such a big deal.

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