Aldous Says Jail Time Required Criminal Trial

Charla Aldous, the attorney who represented Jane Doe and her family in the civil trial against ESD, said it’s a “complete lie” that the Does didn’t want Nathan Campbell to serve jail time.

“The only way for that to happen was to try the case, and Jane did not want to have to go through another trial,” Aldous said.

District attorney Tammy Kemp reached a plea deal with Nathan Campbell and his attorney, Mark Nancarrow on Monday. The deal gave Campbell 10 years “community supervision” as deferred adjudication. Nancarrow said in a previous interview that he didn’t believe the family wanted Campbell to go to jail.

While the family’s wishes were given some consideration, ultimately the decision belonged to the State of Texas, Aldous said.

By Claire St. Amant Oct. 12, 2011 | 7:05 pm | 57 Comments | Comments RSS
57 comments to "Aldous Says Jail Time Required Criminal Trial"
  1. Nancy @ October 12, 2011 at 8:17 pm
    HA! So they wanted him to serve time but they just didn’t want to do anything to make sure he did? Right. Sure.
    They didn’t mind going through a trial for money but if there is no money in it they are not interested?

    Sorry Charla, you look like an idiot.

  2. Jules @ October 12, 2011 at 10:21 pm
    Speaking from experience and as a Mother of a victim of abuse, the sentence given was the one typically given to any sex offender. This is the NORM. The offender does not have to go to trial, because he/she gets to make that decision, not the victim and her family. If you doubt what I am saying, then check out the Sex Offender page and you may be surprised at what you might learn. The sex offenders are also labeled according to the “Threat/ Risk” Level (high, medium and low). Most sex offenders are labeled as low level offenders. The jails are overcrowded, so it is easier to let these predators walk amongst the rest of society. They don’t have to disclose anything and unless you are affected by someone that comes into your life and turns it upside down, you have no idea. So Nancy, the fact that he did not go to trial to serve time is irrelevant. He more than likely would have ended up with the same sentence. It is traumatic enough for a person to have to face their perpertrator. I only know this because of what my family has gone through. So before you going spewing more venom, think about everyone that has been affected by this. The victim is truly treated as the one who has done wrong in the judical system and the criminal is treated as the victim. The criminal has more rights and has more power in this type of situation.

  3. Watchdog @ October 12, 2011 at 10:36 pm
    Nancy’s parents…..

    Please cut your child off the internet. She’s embarrassed herself and her family and likely needs counseling.

  4. Avid Reader @ October 13, 2011 at 8:21 am
    Everyone needs to leave Nancy alone. She has every right to post whatever she wants to say and happens to be doing a great job bringing much needed attention to the continued sorry state of affairs that is ESD’s administration/board.

  5. The Good Guys @ October 13, 2011 at 10:28 am
    Nancy has it absolutely correct.
    Little Doe only showed up ONE day during the trial as she and her family pursued money from ESD. She knows that she was also at fault and that
    there is no GAIN from going through criminal trial. Sadly so obvious.
    And the only people who “lose” at ESD are the students, future students depending on scholarships, teachers, and families. There is no money being printed in the basement at ESD to pay for this ridiculous judgement.
    Love You Guys!!!!!

  6. Nancy @ October 13, 2011 at 1:30 pm
    Owners of Watchdog….

    Watchdog got out of the fence again last night and he is running down Preston chasing cars. I think you need to come pick him up. Think you better keep him tied up from now on for his own protection too.

  7. Nancy @ October 13, 2011 at 2:09 pm
    The Good Guys@, Thanks for your post. I think you bring up an interesting point.

    Miss Doe got caught in several lies during the civil trial. I am sure we didn’t even hear half of all the lies she told. I am wondering if she was trying to continue the affair after she had told the school and others it was over. This really didn’t come up in the trial but maybe it should have.

    ESD should depose Campbell and see if they can find out what was going on. They should also ask him about the deal he cut with the Does. IMO. This whole thing about the Does not wanting to go to trial is laughable. They didn’t want this case to go to trial. I wonder why?

  8. Thetruthshallsetyoufree @ October 13, 2011 at 2:41 pm
    Nancy,
    According to you, “Miss Doe got caught in several lies during the civil trial.”.

    So did Mr. Burrow. And yet, although called a rogue employee by ESD’s pr, he is still on paid administrative leave.

    Care to elaborate?

  9. auntiecairo @ October 13, 2011 at 2:44 pm
    Jules – that sounds good but why then would Jane Doe cooperate with the D Magazine article? Nobody else did (as far as intimate details which were not allowed in the civil trial because they would have been irrelevant) – that’s what doesn’t make sense. All the article did was add a salacious viewpoint to the matter. And by calling it a “sex” scandal — D Magazine and by association the family played into the myth that abuse is about sex – and not about power and other issues. Is the family saying they wouldn’t have been upset if Jane Doe hadn’t said she was a virgin? That’s all irrelevant. Campbell was immediately guilty by virtue of her age and his position of power over her. That’s what would cause long term damage — yet the jury didn’t find the school liable for any of that. And you can’t say the sentence would have been the same — there have been numerous other cases where teachers have been sent to jail for having similar relationships.

    The truth is the standards of evidence in a criminal trial are much higher so much of what wasn’t allowed in the civil trial would be in criminal court because it affects the jail sentence. Campbell admitted guilt from the beginning. Usually a defendant doesn’t admit guilt unless they have reasonable expectation that the outcome would be better without a trial.

    The defense attorney has stated that the Judge’s sentence was based in part on recommendations of the family. Perhaps to dispel any questions the Doe’s attorney should release whatever was sent to the Judge by the family. Otherwise they should quit posturing — all of the trials are over. The appeal process will be based on the record. People’s opinions are made. The family can’t have it both ways — they could have asked for the criminal trial first — but obviously if she didn’t want to go thru that twice then they wanted civil because of the lower standards and expediting receipt of any money.

  10. Claire St. Amant @ October 13, 2011 at 2:53 pm
    @auntiecairo, I know you aren’t the first to mention this, but I feel like I need to set the record straight on who I talked to for the D article. No one. Everything I reported was from trial testimony, exhibits, and evidence. Some of the more intimate details came from police documents, which are publicly available if you know incident dates and locations. The Doe family and ESD were still involved in the lawsuit as I was writing the article, so no one could talk to me. Not Jane, not ESD. I did try, but Judge Benson wouldn’t allow it.

  11. Nancy @ October 13, 2011 at 3:27 pm
    Well Claire, then your story is misleading. As a matter of fact, since you didn’t talk to anyone, it looks like you just made up about half of it. Is it supposed to be fictional? Good grief. I guess the joke’s on all of us for thinking you were a real writer.

    BUT Claire, FYI, your story is told from Jane’s point of view. It is completely slanted as Hashimoto from the News said it was. So you just made all that stuff up? Her thinking and all of that?. Wow.

  12. Nancy @ October 13, 2011 at 4:12 pm
    OH!!! Anutiecairo@, thanks for your post. I am starting to see why the Does didn’t want to go to trial. Claire’s story is just that. A story, the story the plaintiff attorneys made up. So what is the real story? What would have come out in trial? Was Jane a virgin? Did she tell Campbell she was or did she tell him something different? And what about contraception. Did they have it? Who bought it? When and how did the affair start and when did it really end? All these questions and more would have come up and it would have hurt the Doe’s case against ESD or they thought it would. No wonder they cut a deal with him. They don’t want his story out.

  13. *breaking news* @ October 13, 2011 at 4:38 pm
    Jane Doe was only at the trial one day because she is a full time student…moving on as the ESD mob demanded her to do.

    Campbell’s sentence is very much par for the course in Texas for a “first time” conviction.

    Why would JD want another trial? So she could be raped a third time by ESD? (First being Campbell by statute, second being the hateful spew of the fine Christians at ESD, and one more round being the third of Swann’s posse at a criminal trial?)

    Take your meds ESD and move on.

  14. Donatella @ October 13, 2011 at 6:19 pm
    Wow Nancy–Now the whole relationship was “a story”. Don’t you get it?? It does not matter what Jane told Campbell, it was illegal for him to have a sexual relationship with her, period. A jury found that ESD was wrong in the way that the administration handled the situation. You really are becoming unhinged over this. Follow the advice of “breaking new” and take your meds and move on.

  15. Avid Reader @ October 13, 2011 at 6:21 pm
    Nancy is right you guys. Let’s help ESD get ahead of their game and get the ball rolling on a libel suit against D, Preston Hollow People, and Claire for “[making] all that stuff up”. This is a slam dunk kind of case for the ESD legal team since it is so obvious they are in the wrong that they will clearly settle; which is way more up their alley than actually trying a case in a court. ESD needs a win and I find it hard to believe that they haven’t already gone after them. Nancy has it spot on, so where’s the suit ESD?

  16. Jules @ October 13, 2011 at 6:22 pm
    @Nancy, I don’t know if you have children, but if you do, I certainly hope none of them have to encounter anything that Jane Doe and her family went through. You are CLUELESS as to how the LAW actually works in a CRIMINAL CASE. If you were to encounter what the Does have gone through or others from this type of abuse you would be singing a different tune.

    @breaking news, well said. That is how it works in a criminal case. The victim is treated like a criminal and the criminal is treated like a victim. To put the family through a criminal court hearing would have only caused more pain. I know this and we are five years after the outcry. The memories never go away, but each day does get a little better.

  17. Johnny Depp @ October 13, 2011 at 6:57 pm
    Nancy@ you must be on the payroll by ESD and the appellate team. Better stop refusing to take your pharmaceutical cocktail- the mania is really starting to kick in. You’re not only hearing the voices- you’re parroting them. Ok for pirates; rational people not-so-much. Start with the thorazine and add the lithium a couple of days later-don’t type, drive or stand to close to a window. You cant fly, compose a lucid sentence or execute any legal documents in your present state no matter what the voices tell you. 

  18. Lisa @ October 13, 2011 at 6:59 pm
    Carolinaborn, where are you? Bring your thoughtful, clear posts back to the table.

  19. FomerESD DadX2 @ October 13, 2011 at 9:54 pm
    All the time spent on ad hominem attacks on Nancy here makes one wonder if she isn’t just a wee bit too close to the truth. What excellent work you people do.

  20. Nancy @ October 13, 2011 at 10:18 pm
    *BREAKING NEWS* Jane Doe let her the guy that “raped” her off without jail time. He is the only one that “raped” her but he did “rape” her over and over again. How many times was it?

    Who is Swann’s posse? LOL. The ESD lawyers? Why would their being at the trial be a big deal unless the Does wanted to hide something?

  21. *breaking news* @ October 14, 2011 at 1:20 am
    You wonder if Nancy is close to the truth?

    I’m sad for the decent families at ESD who are a million miles away from the seething jackals on this blog.

  22. auntiecairo @ October 14, 2011 at 11:17 am
    Thanks you for the clarification Claire — and I apologize for making that assumption — I forget there was probably court record that hasn’t been made public.

    Jules – I agree about criminal trials — but you can’t make a generalization about sentencing — Campbell plead guilty from the get go. Judges do take the victim’s wishes into consideration. eg Mary Kay Letourneu had no previous criminal history before her famous relationship — and she eventually served 7+ years in prison. And if I recall the family of her now husband didn’t want her sent to jail. I do know rape victims who have been through trials – and it is horrendous. And the reason they went through the ordeal was to stop the perpetrator from being able to act again. That’s why I think calling this a “sex scandal” to sell magazines was wrong too — because people continue to perpetuate the myth that rape is about sex. It’s about so much more —

    But while Jane Doe no doubt has suffered by her abuse, it’s not quite the same. Just like other crimes you have to look at the degree. While this is a case of statutory rape it’s disingenuous to compare this case with aggravated rape – someone who is beaten, raped and left to die by a stranger. Only those completely clueless would blame Jane Doe – and most haven’t. But the family could have chosen to have the criminal trial in lieu of the civil trial if punishing Campbell was their primary goal – they decided to go civil and I understand that. But you have to understand why some people would think their anger at ESD was misplaced based on their decision not to vigorously go after Campbell.

    Based on what Claire has said and the Jane Doe’s statement this should be the end of it besides the appeal. I truly hope so for all involved –

  23. boooo @ October 14, 2011 at 11:41 am
    do you know what i think. this is all BS! neither the civil trial against esd or the criminal case against nathan campbell was right. our legal system is horrible. AND the reporters are horrible. including you claire. you have made up a lot of stuff pertaining to both cases. how can you call yourself a real reporter???

  24. LDK @ October 14, 2011 at 11:53 am
    I am very saddended reading these comments. I had a tour at ESD last week as a prospective parent. I had no idea what was going on with this mess. And, even if I could afford ESD (not likely) or if I felt it was a good match for my child (don’t think so) … you should step back and listen to yourselves… I do realize this is a very hot topic amongst the ESD community but I will take a mediocre public school education over this type of petty ranting anyday. Bottom line, a teacher had sex with a student. This teacher is a predator. The ESD administration should be ashamed and humbled by the horror of this very sad situation.

  25. attymomma @ October 14, 2011 at 5:10 pm
    The family sold out. Period. Cooperated with the criminal defense team to boost their civil case and make money, which is why a deal was cut on the defense side. They and their attorneys should be ashamed. Lets make money and let the perp walk. Disgusting. The only good thing is that they will never see a penny of this after the appeals are done. Seriously?? No money, and the perp walks. Wow. Good job, Does and Aldous… Fabulous. Brilliant. Embarrassing.

  26. Nancy @ October 14, 2011 at 7:40 pm
    FomerESD DadX2 @ you nailed it and I have been thinking the same. That is why all the attacks don’t bother me. I mean really that is all they have. Not like they can defend the Does letting Campbell off. They can’t spin that. It is fun watching them try though. LOL

  27. Avid Reader @ October 14, 2011 at 10:01 pm
    Nancy, You just can’t stop, it is greatness. You are so silly. I mean, to actually think that the anyone has to defend the victim of rape or her family for any choices they make in a trial situation, LOL. Keep up the good work giving ESD the much needed attention in our common goal of getting the much needed change at ESD for the better for all students, their reputation, and future well being. Can we nominate Nance for honorary cheerleader for all her selfless effort on this front! LOL

  28. Former ESD Mother @ October 15, 2011 at 9:27 am
    The Does knew that Campbell was going to be sentenced whether or not they pursued criminal charges. The reason they sued ESD was to hold them accountable also. Had they not ESD would have been the only party not affected.
    Mr and Mrs Doe will live forever with the guilt of not protecting their daughter enough. Undoubtedly it has and will haunt them a life time. Jane will live knowing her part and live with the aftermath of the abuse of this relationship. Campbell, while not serving time in prison, will be a felon and registered sex offender. It might be easier to be in jail than try to live under those conditions. He will never work with children again, thankfully. And he will live with the consequences of his actions for the rest of his life.
    Had the Does not sued ESD the school would have walked away with no consequence. Free and clear. So, it is completely understandable to me that they pursued legal action. You can say why wouldn’t they undertake 2 trials, but you aren’t the Does and you wouldn’t be the one to live through all of that twice. Unless we have walked in their shoes we really can’t judge.
    Ultimately everyone now has a consequence. ESD’s could have been worse. They could have been found guilty on more charges. Campbell’s could have been worse. He could have gone to jail. The Does and Jane’s could have been worse. They could have pulled Jane out of college to endure a second trial. So it all could have been much worse.

  29. Nancy @ October 15, 2011 at 1:02 pm
    Avid Reader@ Jane wasn’t a victim. Oh I get that the law says she was but how was she really a victim? She liked the attention. She enjoyed the sex because she kept doing it. She enjoyed telling her friends and from all accounts she got a lot of joy out of stalking Campbell’s wife. A victim of “grooming”? Maybe so but we don’t know the whole story do we. Really almost nothing Jane said was true. Her word is not worth much. Victim or not that is truth.

    Campbell was responsible and if Jane was under age then her parents were responsible for her part in all this and after she turned 17 she was responsible for herself. The only victim is the school. IMO. The jury didn’t find the school responsible for Campbell or Does actions as you know. The responsible people are Campbell, Little Doe, Shopping Mommy and Sailing Daddy. The just and right thing would have been for Campbell to do jail time. The Does should accept responsibility for their underage daughter and Miss Doe should have been held responsible for all of her lies.

    The Does let Campbell off without jail time. They even cut a deal with him for the money. Save your breath Avid Doe defender. You just can’t defend their greed and hypocrisy.

  30. Angry ESD mom @ October 15, 2011 at 5:07 pm
    @ NANCY: Did you REALLY just post what I pasted below? YOU ARE A SICK WOMAN AND A SHAMEFUL HUMAN BEING. If you really are an ESD parent – and if it is ONLY you in our school that feels this way – I CANNOT GET MY KIDS OUT OF THIS COMMUNITY FAST ENOUGH. You have really crossed the line of every moral boundary with this last post. I tried to respect your right to your own opinions but you have gone too far once and for all. I am sorry but I believe with all my heart that you are a total idiot and our school wishes you would shut up. Excuse my anger.

    Avid Reader@ Jane wasn’t a victim. Oh I get that the law says she was but how was she really a victim? She liked the attention. She enjoyed the sex because she kept doing it. She enjoyed telling her friends and from all accounts she got a lot of joy out of stalking Campbell’s wife. A victim of “grooming”? Maybe so but we don’t know the whole story do we. Really almost nothing Jane said was true. Her word is not worth much. Victim or not that is truth.

  31. involvedparent @ October 15, 2011 at 5:57 pm
    Nancy

    You forgot your obligatory “LOL” ….. no matter what anyone else posts, I don’t think you’ll ever get it.

  32. The Good Guys remix @ October 15, 2011 at 10:53 pm
    I changed my mind.
    In fact, I retract my previous statement AND I have gone to catholic confession to recant my awful statements.

    Also: it just occurred to me.. someone who has been summoned to testify in front of the court is not allowed to be in the court room on any other day.. hmm..

    PAY ATTENTION LEMASTER PR FIRM: keep some of these “supporters of ESD” off this blog. it looks Ridiculous and comes across wrong. CRISIS COMM Rule #1: CONTROL THE OUTGOING MESSAGE

  33. So Very Sad @ October 16, 2011 at 3:16 am
    The problem is, it isn’t just Nancy that feels this way at ESD. Swann has gone to great lengths to pass defamatory information through the gossip mill at ESD. The decent parents at ESD should be saying this is “OUR HOUSE.” But, sadly, it’s the people like Nancy who cling to some kind of notion they have special status. For high school students, this is a bad situation. Where do our children transfer this late in the game? I hope every single family grades 8 and down do the smart thing and GET THE HELL OUT OF ESD.

    Nancy parrots what she thinks will help her with the “in” crowd at ESD, but the truth is, she doesn’t talk like an insider. She doesn’t know the school or the parents, she just thrives on the attention she gets here. How sad.

    Has anyone else had the thought that this will happen again with such a horrible board and no real commitment to change? What happens if my daughter is God forbid raped by one of Swann’s inner circle families? My wife and I are sickened by the testimony of the two ESD graduates, sicker even to know that this kind of sexual crime has been a normal happening at ESD for almost 30 years.

    It pains me to say it, but I think ESD should close its doors.

  34. Lisa @ October 16, 2011 at 9:03 am
    Finally! Thank you @AngryESDmom for voicing some outrage from your community about this rhetoric from Nancy. Until now it seemed as if she represented all of you. She has done you all a disservice as has @eagleparent.I hope in the future you will drown out their voices and help drive a paradigm shift in how cases like Jane’s and her unfortunate predecessors are perceived and dispatched at ESD. Ask Swann to publicly apologize to his community and the city for his vanity and terrible judgement.

  35. eagle grammarian @ October 16, 2011 at 1:16 pm
    @Angry ESD mom:
    I don’t really understand your anger toward Nancy. Nancy believes that Jane Doe II and her family should be at least somewhat responsible for the role they played in this mess; You may not agree, but I don’t see how that crosses “the line of every moral boundary.”

    A lot of you are very quick to judge Nancy for being illogical, but you need to take another look at your own posts before you criticize others’.

  36. AuntieCairo @ October 16, 2011 at 1:22 pm
    Former ESD Mother — some of that may be true — but you can’t say money wasn’t also a motive — it always is when you involve P/I attorneys. That’s not to say the Does didn’t deserve some sort of restitution — but the findings in the trial don’t match the award. As for Campbell not working with children — that doesn’t mean he won’t be able to work with young women over that age. And I’m not sure he should be in prison — I just think my point and others is if you were furious with ESD it should be doubly that with Campbell. He and Jane had the relationship — ESD came in afterwards and made their mistakes. If what you say is true then hopefully the Does atty will stop the PR machine and the Does will at some point address the profit making end of their story and go after those who continue to put the story out there.

  37. Nancy @ October 16, 2011 at 1:25 pm
    Angry Mom@ if you can’t take the discussion then maybe you should get off the blogs and go take a nap or something. I am tired of your fake outrage and your name calling.

    If Jane’s story was true then why did the Does let Campbell off without jail time?

    Face it, all the Does care about is the money. BTW, I am also tired of calling them the Does. They are not victims and they proved it. So get over it.

  38. Nancy @ October 16, 2011 at 1:50 pm
    involvedparent@ I get it. It is all about the money. It is not that hard to figure out. The Does actions say it all. They don’t care about Campbell or their daughter. These are disgusting people that only care about the money and that is all this has ever been about. Duh.

  39. Former ESD Mother @ October 16, 2011 at 6:07 pm
    AuntieCairo: I wasn’t a juror, so I can’t speak to how they came up with the actual damages amount. They were a completely neutral group that listened to the trial day in and day out and that is the amount they assessed. Whether or not the findings match the award is irrelevant, because we weren’t the ones deciding. The Does didn’t decide the amount either; the jury did. And sure they sued for money. It’s the only way you can truly make an impression and hopefully bring about change, although I don’t see much evidence of that happening.
    No doubt the Does were furious with Campbell, but they knew he would be punished. They had to sue ESD to hold them also accountable. It’s just not that hard a concept to understand. I am not aware of any PR firm working on behalf of the Does. We all know ESD has one, but I haven’t heard that the Does have one.
    Given that the family has not received any money yet I don’t think they are obliged to speak to that aspect. The case will likely be appealed anyway. And as I said in the beginning, the Does did not come up with the monetary award. The jury decided the award, and they could just as easily have decided on nothing. Apparently a group of their peers felt $9.2 million was the appropriate amount. Ask them, not the Does, why they awarded so much money.

  40. eagle grammarian @ October 16, 2011 at 7:31 pm
    @So Very Sad:
    I agree with you that the board, Swann, and his cronies have not looked appealing lately. However, I think you’re wrong to say ESD should close its doors.

    ESD, despite this tragedy, is a wonderful place with many talented students, caring and devoted teachers, and a warm, genuine spirit of friendliness. It may take new leadership to repair ESD’s image, but the essence of the school remains strong: I’ve seen it firsthand.

    I can already feel the blows coming my way, but I’ll say this anyway: I think ESD is the best private school in Dallas.

    Why? I am an unabashed critic of single-sex schools; they don’t prepare kids for a world where they’ll have to interact with the opposite sex, and boys and girls at single-sex schools usually have skewed perceptions of and attitudes toward the other sex. Consequently, I won’t even consider Hockaday, St. Mark’s, Jesuit, Ursuline, etc. Greenhill, ESD’s major competitor in the co-ed category, has recently made decisions that I think are detrimental to a solid education.

    ESD may need a new PR firm and maybe even a new headmaster, but I certainly fail to see why it should close its doors.

  41. Nancy @ October 16, 2011 at 7:57 pm
    OH Lisa@ give it a rest already. AngryESDmom doesn’t represent the school any more than I do. BTW, I never said I was a current ESD parent either. I don’t know where angry mom came up with that.

    Lisa@ all you seem to do is trash Swann and call me and Eagle parent@ names. Got anything new? How is Swann or anyone else responsible for what happened to Jane?

  42. *breaking news* @ October 17, 2011 at 2:29 am
    Nancy thinks the Does “let Campbell off” from jail time. I guess on top of her many other charms, she’s also ignorant about criminal law.

    Whoever said ESD is the best private school in Dallas needs to put down the crack pipe. Yes, we see how ESD is preparing it’s students for relationships with the opposite sex.

  43. Angry ESD mom @ October 17, 2011 at 6:32 am
    Nancy – I am an ANGRY ESD Mom…who are you? You are nothing but a coward behind your keyboard who can’t get the definition of rape straight in your tiny mind. Having sex with an underage student is illegal and whether she enjoyed it or not is irrelevant. Duh? Lol? Got it?

    You are a joke, a sad disgrace.

  44. attymomma @ October 17, 2011 at 9:59 am
    GOOD LORD, PEOPLE. GET A LIFE. STOP ENGAGING. IT IS NOT HELPING ANYONE. READ THE BLOGS FROM THE INFORMED FEW OF US IN THE KNOW WHO ARE REASONABLE ABOUT THIS ALL. NOT THE CRAZY ONES SAYING JANE IS TOTALLY RESPONSIBLE OR THE CRAZY ONES SAYING ESD SHOULD SHUT ITS DOORS. AGAIN, STOP ENGAGING. IT JUST ENCOURAGES THESE RANTS.

  45. Nancy @ October 17, 2011 at 12:53 pm
    Sorry Angry Mom. You are just another fake name. BTW, I don’t believe you are an ESD mom. Prove it. Give us your real name. I mean you are so brave and I am just a coward right? LOL.

    Angry Mom, Lisa, Sodas, Carolina born. You all sound the same gutless fraud to me and every post you write is the same. A bunch fake outrage and personal insults and not much else. Like I said, Have anything new?

  46. avid follower @ October 17, 2011 at 3:46 pm
    Nancy, you do not believe anything anyone says on this site, if it is against you. but what the heck, ignorant people never do. you use this site to get your jollies off and you enjoy pushing people to the limit. You are the most hateful, ignorant, sycophant I have ever seen.

    Now pop off about how I am on someones payroll or that I know someone that I do not.

  47. Amber Gris @ October 17, 2011 at 4:29 pm
    Yes, Nancy. You said it. You’re a coward. A delusional, hateful coward with way too much time on your hands. If ESD is YOUR House, you can have it. By the way, do you shop at Neiman MARCUS?

  48. Nancy @ October 17, 2011 at 7:33 pm
    Well yes, Avid Doe follower, I AM having fun! After weeks of hearing how bad the school was and what victims the Does were and now to see that I have been proven right, that they have proven they are all about the money, yeah, I am having a great time watching you and your buddies try to spin the latest.

    But hey, why do you guys have to be so nasty? I don’t call you all names and try to run you all off. Why is it that anyone that doesn’t agree with the plaintiff’s story has to be run off and attacked. What are you so afraid of?

    I am kind of wondering what all Charla told the Does. What did she tell them? That they could escape all blame, rob the school and let Campbell off? That they could cash in on Campbell’s mistake? Walk away rich and keep their name out of it? I am so glad the world doesn’t work that way. What have they gotten for all their greed?

    I will make a prediction that they never see a dime. Also that all of the people on this blog defending the Does have a really slim Christmas. :) The check is not coming.

  49. Justcurious @ October 18, 2011 at 6:41 am
    Dearest Nancy – The reason for the hate is when you – a supposed adult, blasts what was a child at the time of the offense; and demonize her for being RAPED. Simple and sad.

    Sorry the money judgement has got you in a tissy.

    [REDACTED]. Something definitely is not right with you however I respect your right to blog away.

  50. Avid Reader @ October 18, 2011 at 10:57 am
    I forget, did the Doe’s rob the school or did a jury find ESD liable and award the Does $9.2M? LOL. I think the award will drop considerably in the appeal, as it should. It makes me happy to see Nance predicting that “they never see a dime” because if you recall, she was continuously predicting that the initial case would go ESD’s way.

  51. amanda @ October 18, 2011 at 11:30 am
    It’s kind of sad that Nancy is having such a great time at the expense of a rape victim.

  52. Tired Head @ October 18, 2011 at 2:28 pm
    @Justcurious/amanda – Many (most?) of us familiar with the Does, ESD, and the whole story will just never accept Jane Doe as a “rape victim” whatever the current Texas statutes may say. I’m pretty sure she knew what she was doing was wrong. Nevertheless, Campbell deserved much worse than he got, but one can’t help but think that if JD was truly the victim of repeated rape the family would have pushed for some sort of jail time. Spin it all you want, but this just doesn’t compute.

  53. Student @ October 18, 2011 at 2:40 pm
    Who is the girl thats what i want to know. She must have been incredibly beautiful for him to put everything on the line. Story was tantalizing but time for the juicy stories to leak…

  54. Nancy @ October 18, 2011 at 3:36 pm
    Is there any limit to the number of fake names one can have on this blog? Just Curious?

    Dearest Justcurious@, there is never a reason for hate. I can’t make you hate. If you are filled with hate then it is because you choose to have hate in your heart. You can’t blame others for that. I do feel bad for you though as all that hate is just going to eat you up. I also wonder why you have so much hate for me and ESD and seemingly none for Campbell. You don’t seem upset in the slightest about him not doing jail time. I find that odd.

    As you know, but we can go over again, Jane was 16 years old and week before her 17 birthday. I don’t call that a child. (FYI, most young women have sex around this age.)

    Jane was old enough to know the difference between right and wrong and she knew what she did was wrong because she lied to cover it up. Which, BTW, I think was plenty reason enough to expel her.

    I have never demonized Jane. Campbell is at fault but the legal definition of rape or what YOU are calling rape is not the true definition of rape. At least that is not what it is in any dictionary, Unless it is some legal dictionary. Rape is without consent with force or the threat of it. That didn’t happen here but that doesn’t make Jane a demon. IMO.

    The jury found the school was not responsible for the sex just for the way they handled a situation that was not of their making. ESD got stuck with the worst judge in Dallas County. I think the School will win an appeal. I also hope they consider suing the Does and Campbell. Why should the people really responsible (for the rape of a child as you call it) get off light?

  55. AuntieCairo @ October 18, 2011 at 3:47 pm
    Former ESD Mother – P/I attorneys hire PR firm as do most parties in high profile cases. I do understand the concept of lawsuits — and having served on juries it’s very complicated when arriving at jury awards. If as you say the Does are only interested in holding ESD accountable and working towards change, and not making alot of money off of a tragic situation, then I assume they will donate whatever money they get to a rape crisis or child abuse charitable organization and pay it all forward.

  56. Avid Reader @ October 18, 2011 at 4:44 pm
    And Nancy does not disappoint, always good for some entertainment.

    “Unless it is some legal dictionary.”

    LOL. Yes, they were using the “legal dictionary” otherwise known as the “law”.

  57. The Darling @ October 22, 2011 at 11:16 am
    Thrilled this is in the light. I stupidly dropped the charges when I was attacked. In high school I didn’t want to relive the drama. Just wanted to bury it asap.

    Hopefully this girl isn’t too screwed up. My coping methods weren’t the best. Tried to OWN my sexuality by using it to make men weak. At 18, I was homewrecking, then graduated to gold digger.

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